CJC no DAC 5mg /ipa 5mg

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Any tips for getting started, or any dos and don’ts I should know? I’ve seen several posts from people saying they take it either right before bed or first thing in the morning. Not twice a day, just wondering if there’s a preferred time or if one works better than the other.
 
Recommendation is at least 2 hours after your last meal in the evening. First because insulin can interfere with absorption and 2 because it aligns with your body’s natural GH cycles.
 
Stormblessed91 said:


Any tips for getting started, or any dos and don’ts I should know? I’ve seen several posts from people saying they take it either right before bed or first thing in the morning. Not twice a day, just wondering if there’s a preferred time or if one works better than the other.

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You need like 6 hrs fasted if on a GLP1. I’m on Reta and pin first thing in the morning to ensure I’m fasted.
 
OzzyFit said:


You need like 6 hrs fasted if on a GLP1. I’m on Reta and pin first thing in the morning to ensure I’m fasted.

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One of the regulars in the AAS forum commented that even though GLP1s slow gastric emptying the insulin release was still only a few hours.

Just a thought there may be some truth to that, as it does make sense.

I am not an expert on this.
 
Skidude said:


One of the regulars in the AAS forum commented that even though GLP1s slow gastric emptying the insulin release was still only a few hours.

Just a thought there may be some truth to that, as it does make sense.

I am not an expert on this.

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I mean it’s a good theory. Slowed gastric emptying means less of a sugar spike, which in turn would mean less insulin response. My thing is, it’s still an insulin response.

I am not an expert on this either. Shit… try both. If you feel like you’re not getting results from evening pinning then do morning.
 
Stormblessed91 said:


Any tips for getting started, or any dos and don’ts I should know? I’ve seen several posts from people saying they take it either right before bed or first thing in the morning. Not twice a day, just wondering if there’s a preferred time or if one works better than the other.

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Not sure of your age - reason being - this mainly works for 45 yrs + (imho) - or if your in puberty and desire increased gh - for increasing your height- for example.

I'm 60 with very low gh due to aghd - yes it made a difference for me (although not huge)- I used it for 5 wks until I became sensitized to it then switched over to 191aa.

So - if you have a 5+5 standard vial - Mix 5+5 vial with 3ml bac h20 -yields a solution that if you take 12 units on an insulin syringe will give you .2mcg of cjc/ipam - recommended dose for this 150-200 mcg - more is not better.

About 2-5 minutes after taking it you will feel a slight flush in your face- you will know it's working.

I suggest you take it just before you go to bed. Your pituitary secretes gh when you sleep - cjc/ipam has approx a 2 hr half life- so it will be helping your pituitary give max gh output during your sleep -yes it works - best when your older- when your younger your pituitary is already working fine - so it will react less- you notice the increased gh when your older and you pituitary is not secreting much gh.

Yes it works- however not as good as 191aa (hgh)

Few suggestions:

You should not be using cjc when your on high 5+iu doses of 191aa.

You can use cjc at night if your using low doses of hgh first thing in the morning - reason being is that hgh increases your igf1 blood markers significantly - and this is what tells your pituitary to stop secreting gh - these igf1 blood markers take 12-15 hours to come down. You want low igf1 blood markers for cjc/ipam to work well.

Also - a big meal will cause an insulin spike which also causes a big rise in igf1 - again telling your pituitary not to secrete gh - that's why people who eat alot before they go to bed end up shorting themselves from increased gh. Your pituitary secretes gh best when you are fasted.

That's why you take it just before you go to bed - and hopefully about 3-4+ hours after your last meal.

Also- if you do heavy cardio or weight training - you can use cjc/ipam - or just cjc - just before the cardio or weights - your pituitary increases gh secretion during intense weightlifting and intense cardio - one of the best ways to increase this secretion is sprinting- yes - no kidding sprinting.

You can take it first thing in the morning again if you wish (in a fasted state) - then do some cardio or weightliting - what most people do -again it will increase your pituitary gh output during that time.

The difference between cjc/ipam and hgh is night and day - however hgh comes with more side effects and is used for different reasons - it will not give you huge muscles or turn you into a 21 year old again - although it will make you feel 20 yrs younger if your an older guy or gal - it changes your body for the good- really good. Hgh used in low doses has very little side effects.

Again- just remember a fasted state is best for cjc/ipam.

Lastly- remember you will get sensitized to this - so 3-4 weeks on- then a few weeks off. Ymmv.

Good luck- hope you see some benefit - it's where I started.
 
Stormblessed91 said:


tips for getting started

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My best advice is to get baseline IGF-1 level tested (usually comes with a Z score). Then you will know for sure what the effect is for you specifically.

I didn't have this advice when I started. However, my first IGF-1 test came back lower than I was hoping. I was using 250mcg of each twice a day.

Switching to 3iu HGH raised Z score from -0.2 to 1.4
 
Troposphere said:


My best advice is to get baseline IGF-1 level tested (usually comes with a Z score). Then you will know for sure what the effect is for you specifically.

I didn't have this advice when I started. However, my first IGF-1 test came back lower than I was hoping. I was using 250mcg of each twice a day.

Switching to 3iu HGH raised Z score from -0.2 to 1.4

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That's good advice troposphere.

One question- so your z score was -.2 when you were on the cjc/ipam 250/day ?

Any idea what it was before the cjc? I take it the hgh had a big effect on you?
 
Riviera said:


That's good advice troposphere.

One question- so your z score was -.2 when you were on the cjc/ipam 250/day ?

Any idea what it was before the cjc? I take it the hgh had a big effect on you?

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As I mentioned, I was not aware that testing IGF-1 level was something to aid in understanding the effects of these compounds. So, unfortunately, I really don't know what my level was like before CJC/Ipa.

While using 250mcg CJC + 250 mcg Ipa both before bed and upon waking only got my IGF-1 to 124 ng/mL (z score -0.2)

3iu HGH has raised that to 238ng/mL (z-score 1.2, I misremembered the exact number).

I am tempted to try 4iu, but the fat lipolysis has my triglycerides at 151mg/dL on 3iu. This is barely above normal.

I want to see what effect fasted cardio has on triglycerides before titrating up.

Anecdotally, I have found my workouts have increased in intensity and duration. I'm sleeping better than ever (CJC/Ipa gave good sleep too). I'm losing belly fat very quickly also. I've got abs for the first time in a long time!

Happy to chat more. I find the secretagogues and HGH to be extremely fascinating to discuss.
 
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