Do turmeric and curcumin have any actual health benefits? No, save your $$$

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Does turmeric have any actual health benefits?​#-does-turmeric-have-any-actual-health-benefitsAlice Klein for New Scientist

13 June 2026, Page 17 Volume 270 Issue 3599

AS THE temperature drops in Australia, I've been seeing recipes on social media for “golden milk”, a mix of turmeric, other spices and honey in warm milk. In addition to being delicious, it is meant to have medicinal qualities, thanks to a compound in turmeric called curcumin, which gives it its distinct yellow colour. Curcumin is said to have anti-inflammatory properties that are protective against cancer, arthritis, hay fever, Alzheimer's disease and many other ailments. But is this based on solid evidence?

Turmeric has been used in South Asian cooking and medicine for thousands of years, but has been exalted as a “superfood” in the West over the past couple of decades. This is largely thanks to the research of Bharat Aggarwal, a biochemist formerly at the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center. Starting in the early 2000s, he published over 100 papers showing that curcumin reduces inflammation and kills “almost all types” of tumour cells.

But a large question mark now hangs over the validity of Aggarwal's research findings. In 2012, the Office of Research Integrity at the US Department of Health and Human Services notified the MD Anderson Cancer Center about allegations by academic whistleblowers of potentially fraudulent results in at least 65 of Aggarwal's papers (although that doesn't mean that the results are, in fact, fraudulent). Aggarwal left the cancer centre after an internal investigation, and 30 of his papers have now been retracted from scientific journals based on concerns about the authenticity of the results. Aggarwal's papers, of which there are several hundred, are still regularly cited. New Scientistwas unable to reach him for comment.

Personally, I find it surprising curcumin has managed to attract so much attention because a quick look at its chemistry tells you it is unlikely to be much good as a drug. Years ago, when I did a PhD in cancer drug development, one of my lab colleagues experimented with curcumin, but found it almost impossible to work with because of its poor solubility and tendency to degrade.

Because very little curcumin dissolves in water, it isn't easily absorbed into the blood following ingestion. Instead, most of it stays in the gut and is excreted in faeces. A study published by Dutch researchers last year found that curcumin was barely detectable in the bloodstreams of men who took curcumin supplements, even high doses of “enhanced” formulations meant to boost absorption with piperidine from black pepper or nanoparticle delivery systems. The concentrations detected in the volunteers' blood were more than 100 times lower than those that have shown activity against cancer cells in a dish.

This probably explains why curcumin has failed to show convincing benefits in any rigorous clinical trials of people with cancer, arthritis or other conditions.

Another concern is that turmeric products are sometimes adulterated with harmful substances. In the US, for instance, more than a dozen brands of ground turmeric spice were voluntarily recalled between 2011 and 2016 after they were found to contain lead chromate, which was added to enhance the spice's yellow colour.

I had a go at brewing up some golden milk, hoping the turmeric in my cupboard was lead-free, and can confirm it is deeply comforting to the soul, if nothing else. I think I will make it a winter staple, but with the recognition that its magic lies in turmeric's unique flavour, rather than in any miracle health benefits. Aggarwal and his colleagues once wrote in the journal of the American Association of Pharmaceutical Scientists that curcumin's efficacy may seem “too good to be true”. He was certainly right about that.
 
Only 9 people? Far too small for a rigorous statistical power, but it definitely is interesting.

But also, even if the curcuminoids do not enter the circulatory system, it may still exert some beneficial effects as prebiotic.
 
I am a firm believer in eating what your ancestors ate. Years ago I got the 23andme and Ancestry.com dna tests done. I have all Mediterranean DNA, including west Africa, and Bosnia (I have no idea where the Bosnian DNA came from. My mom is deceased, so I can't ask her 😉)

My point: why would I consume something that my ancestors didn't evolve eating? I will stick to olive oil and Sardines.
 
CurlySlacker42 said:


I am a firm believer in eating what your ancestors ate. Years ago I got the 23andme and Ancestry.com dna tests done. I have all Mediterranean DNA, including west Africa, and Bosnia (I have no idea where the Bosnian DNA came from. My mom is deceased, so I can't ask her 😉)

My point: why would I consume something that my ancestors didn't evolve eating? I will stick to olive oil and Sardines.

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That’s a strange way of thinking.
 
CurlySlacker42 said:


I am a firm believer in eating what your ancestors ate. Years ago I got the 23andme and Ancestry.com dna tests done. I have all Mediterranean DNA, including west Africa, and Bosnia (I have no idea where the Bosnian DNA came from. My mom is deceased, so I can't ask her 😉)

My point: why would I consume something that my ancestors didn't evolve eating? I will stick to olive oil and Sardines.

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They probably ate grass, too. And maybe cats
 
Redz said:


That’s a strange way of thinking.

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Not according to this book:

You Are What Your Grandparents Ate: What You Need to Know About Nutrition, Experience, Epigenetics and the Origins of Chronic Disease​#-you-are-what-your-grandparents-at...pigenetics-and-the-origins-of-chronic-disease
 
I've had luck reducing pain and inflammation with i. I had achilles tendonitis Refused a cortisone shot and took turmeric It reduced the pain by about 50% I was not taking peptides at the time.
 
CurlySlacker42 said:


Not according to this book:

You Are What Your Grandparents Ate: What You Need to Know About Nutrition, Experience, Epigenetics and the Origins of Chronic Disease​

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Can you summarize what the book is saying. Both my grandfather's died in their early 50s from heart disease. My mommom on mother's side by stroke about 80 (my mom and aunts wouldn't give her the meds after the first mini stroke and decided vit e was safer and more effective and she had a devastating stroke within a year and I watched her die in a bed at my mom's house in about a week hospice) , my mommom on Father's side pancreatic cancer at 84.

I come from an extreme family on mother's side. One aunt died of breast cancer in 1990 who decide to cure her cancer with the grape diet. My mom and 2 other aunts have been curing diabetes with diet for 30 years. They all swear by tumeric and berberine. One aunt is now on mounjaro and doing well. My mom had heart attack in 2022 and that's when she went on insulin instead of treating diabetes with herbs.

I almost have my mom convinced to go on tirzepatide. We had a big blow up when I went on it. She refused to believe that the eye thing that happens was due to diabetes damage and how dropping a1c rapidly contributed. We spoke 2 weeks ago and she covered and said she is thinking of going on it.

I've also just sent a text message offering her KPV when I received it. PsA in my family is crazy high.
 
Would you listen to a video?

View: https://youtu.be/IGQabh-tMfE?is=fFHerlpwZlfUI5rE

Summary:

Core Concepts of Epigenetics

    • Gene expression changes: Lifestyle factors like food, stress, and toxins switch genes on or off without altering DNA.
    • The Barker Hypothesis: Poor nutrition in the womb links low birth weight to adult heart disease and diabetes.
    • Intergenerational impact: What your parents and grandparents ate leaves molecular echoes that influence your personal disease risk. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Critical Window and Chronic Disease

    • First 1,000 days: Vulnerabilities for obesity, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and dementia trace back to conception and early childhood.
    • Modern epidemics: Unhealthy diets and toxic exposures drive rising rates of chronic illness across current generations.
    • Future legacy: Your current diet and choices actively reshape the biological markers passed down to your children and grandchildren. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Actionable Solutions

    • Better nutrition: Eating wholesome foods corrects negative epigenetic triggers.
    • Active lifestyle: Regular exercise reduces genetic predispositions to chronic conditions.
    • Mindfulness and stress control: Lowering daily stress protects cellular health and long-term well-being

moodymama76 said:


Can you summarize what the book is saying. Both my grandfather's died in their early 50s from heart disease. My mommom on mother's side by stroke about 80 (my mom and aunts wouldn't give her the meds after the first mini stroke and decided vit e was safer and more effective and she had a devastating stroke within a year and I watched her die in a bed at my mom's house in about a week hospice) , my mommom on Father's side pancreatic cancer at 84.

I come from an extreme family on mother's side. One aunt died of breast cancer in 1990 who decide to cure her cancer with the grape diet. My mom and 2 other aunts have been curing diabetes with diet for 30 years. They all swear by tumeric and berberine. One aunt is now on mounjaro and doing well. My mom had heart attack in 2022 and that's when she went on insulin instead of treating diabetes with herbs.

I almost have my mom convinced to go on tirzepatide. We had a big blow up when I went on it. She refused to believe that the eye thing that happens was due to diabetes damage and how dropping a1c rapidly contributed. We spoke 2 weeks ago and she covered and said she is thinking of going on it.

I've also just sent a text message offering her KPV when I received it. PsA in my family is crazy high.

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CurlySlacker42 said:


Would you listen to a video?

View: https://youtu.be/IGQabh-tMfE?is=fFHerlpwZlfUI5rE

Summary:

Core Concepts of Epigenetics

    • Gene expression changes: Lifestyle factors like food, stress, and toxins switch genes on or off without altering DNA.
    • The Barker Hypothesis: Poor nutrition in the womb links low birth weight to adult heart disease and diabetes.
    • Intergenerational impact: What your parents and grandparents ate leaves molecular echoes that influence your personal disease risk. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

The Critical Window and Chronic Disease

    • First 1,000 days: Vulnerabilities for obesity, type 2 diabetes, high blood pressure, and dementia trace back to conception and early childhood.
    • Modern epidemics: Unhealthy diets and toxic exposures drive rising rates of chronic illness across current generations.
    • Future legacy: Your current diet and choices actively reshape the biological markers passed down to your children and grandchildren. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Actionable Solutions

    • Better nutrition: Eating wholesome foods corrects negative epigenetic triggers.
    • Active lifestyle: Regular exercise reduces genetic predispositions to chronic conditions.
    • Mindfulness and stress control: Lowering daily stress protects cellular health and long-term well-being

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Yes I do know who Robert Lufkin is. He's worked with Robert Lustig. Been a fan for years.

You probably should have just summarized the book of you read it.

Some of the research says only boys are effective by the grandfather's life style. Women have not shown to be effected. I also do know George carry memory ie the Irish famine had generational effects.
 
You said : Both my grandfather's died in their early 50s from heart disease.

I’m sorry that happened.

Okay, if I were to do a very quick and dirty summary of this book:

Your genetic history is the basis of your longevity, and your lifestyle choices (diet, exercise, rest, happiness, life fulfillment) equates to the QUALITY of your life.

moodymama76 said:


Can you summarize what the book is saying. Both my grandfather's died in their early 50s from heart disease. My mommom on mother's side by stroke about 80 (my mom and aunts wouldn't give her the meds after the first mini stroke and decided vit e was safer and more effective and she had a devastating stroke within a year and I watched her die in a bed at my mom's house in about a week hospice) , my mommom on Father's side pancreatic cancer at 84.

I come from an extreme family on mother's side. One aunt died of breast cancer in 1990 who decide to cure her cancer with the grape diet. My mom and 2 other aunts have been curing diabetes with diet for 30 years. They all swear by tumeric and berberine. One aunt is now on mounjaro and doing well. My mom had heart attack in 2022 and that's when she went on insulin instead of treating diabetes with herbs.

I almost have my mom convinced to go on tirzepatide. We had a big blow up when I went on it. She refused to believe that the eye thing that happens was due to diabetes damage and how dropping a1c rapidly contributed. We spoke 2 weeks ago and she covered and said she is thinking of going on it.

I've also just sent a text message offering her KPV when I received it. PsA in my family is crazy high.

Click to expand...
 
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