pepper56
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Hello everyone, since it is very hard to get Hospira Bac-Water in germany i am asking my german or european fellas directly. what are good alternatives?
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Bac Water - beside Hospira
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eidos
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I saw some at an online Apothek, but I can't remember which one because they only shipped to DE.
B.Braun sterile water for injection works very well in many cases, as does sterile 0.9% NaCl for injection. You can find 100% USP-grade benzyl alcohol in the NL. It’s fairly simple to make your own BAC if you’re comfortable with aseptic techniques.
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I advise against discussing sources while you still have “no sources” status. With a little patience and participation, it won’t be long before you get it.
B.Braun sterile water for injection works very well in many cases, as does sterile 0.9% NaCl for injection. You can find 100% USP-grade benzyl alcohol in the NL. It’s fairly simple to make your own BAC if you’re comfortable with aseptic techniques.
Use the site’s search engine and you’ll find other recent threads on this topic (with links).
I advise against discussing sources while you still have “no sources” status. With a little patience and participation, it won’t be long before you get it.
pepper56
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Thanks for your advices, didn’t think bac is also categoriesed as “source” but you are right. ty
ultima thule
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Genetek is the same grade as Hospira. You can get it from Indiamart. And it's much cheaper than Hospira too
Super Trips
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man I bet you could get anyone off in court. to bad you are in germany
hoobz
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It's in these 10mg ampoules though, right? The ones you open and have direct air exposure to?
I was considering it, as it's darn cheap in India, but the ampoules put me off.
WLBLD
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Aren't they made out of some type of plastic? Can you just poke it with a thick enough syringe to draw & not expose to the air?
Haven't seen any in person so I don't know how they feel. Just an idea
eidos
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Buy sterile vials and transfer the contents of the ampoule into them.
Llanitox
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There’s a German start up that sells diy kits to make your own bac I purchased one.
It’s ampuwa sterile water with benzyl alcohol comes with instructions and everything you need.
The start up has started doing pre mixed bottles now too they make it the same day they ship to you and use a method not to contaminate nor open the vial (the methods is explained on their Tg group. Only ships to eu and works jsut as well as hospira tbh.
hoobz
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I get you, but then again I'm thinking if I open these ampoules and they are subject to air contamination for a while, it's not 100% sterile.
Also, puncturing the needle thru the plastic carries a risk of contamination.
So the more I think of it, the less I want to try it
Any idea if they ship outside Germany? Would you mind DMing me the source?
flipperdosan
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I am looking for vials but can only find ones you need a tool to seal.
BNLFL
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Do you have Amazon? They have the KS-Tek that I've been using with no issues.
WLBLD
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But if you draw from puncture & add to sterile new vial? Maybe that can work for you if you don't have anything else available. No air bc just drawn & clean new sterile vial. I haven't tried this yet but just trying to think of something that might work for youhoobz said:
I get you, but then again I'm thinking if I open these ampoules and they are subject to air contamination for a while, it's not 100% sterile.
Also, puncturing the needle thru the plastic carries a risk of contamination.
So the more I think of it, the less I want to try it
Any idea if they ship outside Germany? Would you mind DMing me the source?
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tonipitzikata
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Had the same problem in Germany and went with the DIY route... Ampuwa 50ml + Benzylalcohol -> DIY Bac Water. PH comes out around Hospira. Did a recon of Reta and KLOW - both turned out fine.
For other peptides which are used up more quickly (like MOTS-C) i plan on just using the sterile water without alcohol. should be fine for a few days if handeld propperly.
(Ampuwa is really cheap, worth looking into it)
For other peptides which are used up more quickly (like MOTS-C) i plan on just using the sterile water without alcohol. should be fine for a few days if handeld propperly.
(Ampuwa is really cheap, worth looking into it)
headward
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Genetek from india mart. $60 for 100 ampoules. I paid $50 for 50 though. Includes shipping. STG group tested it and it's good quality.
Air exposure is no big deal. You open it for five minutes, reconstitute, then throw the rest away. Don't keep the remainder for later and you will be fine.
eidos
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How long does it take them to reply? I requested a quote two days ago, I verified my address, but nothing since. Thanks
headward
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Same with the first couple I messaged. Then I messaged like 6-8 (or 6-7?
) and got a lot of replies hours later.. Imho, it's all the same stuff as long as it's Genetek, so you can message a dozen or more, and pick the one with the best deal. I don't think there's money to be made making fake ampoules to sell. But as always, buyer beware. They are all up for negotiation.eidos
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Thank youheadward said:
Same with the first couple I messaged. Then I messaged like 6-8 (or 6-7?
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hoobz
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Thanks! I think i will go down the indiamart route for Genetek. I actually bought some sterile water for injection where I live and ordered some 99.9% pure benzyl alcohol, so i will also try making my own BAC and see how boty options work.WLBLD said:
But if you draw from puncture & add to sterile new vial? Maybe that can work for you if you don't have anything else available. No air bc just drawn & clean new sterile vial. I haven't tried this yet but just trying to think of something that might work for you
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hoobz
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I ordered some KS-tek sterile vials from Aliexpress that some people recommended here. They're arriving soon, will test them out and see how it goes.