Feels like im at a loss

ZippityDooDah said:


The unfortunate irony that we have here is that "feels" shouldn't be the basis for testing; the testing should have been done before feels ever became a consideration.

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Elsewhere on this forum I admitted my fault in this, for not testing prior to use. That will change with the next batch "IF" I remain on Retatrutide.

I have achieved my goal weight so there is some possibility of a smaller maintenance dose. I've been considering ordering 40ea 10mg vials and sending two random samples out. This week is the first trial of a lower Mx dose, 3mg/wk instead of 5 to 6.

As far as "feels" is pretty meaningless, my point stands. Many of us with serious health issues manage by 'signs and symptoms'. When expected side effects disappear, and new ones appear, as was the case with my ineffective Retatrutide, that raises the red flag.

I'd also claim that there seems to have been substitutions in the grey world. Someone who expects Retatrutitde to work at 4mg and is not getting results could be injecting TB500 as happened recently.
 
I personally wouldn't waste time or money testing if money is tight. Your vendor's attitude is too cavalier where I don't think they would even make it right if you do pop up with a Jano test showing it's wrong.

Although it's more expensive $/mg, it might be best to get a vial (or 2) to hold you over for the next 2 months or so from a US source (vet at your own risk) that do batch COA testing and typically have better Customer Service/post-sales support.

$200 is a lot and you can simply move on, it sucks but it is what it is. I can't discuss US sources but there are Father's Day sales going on stacking with affiliate codes with plenty of US sources.
 
Similarly, another option is buying kits from a domestic vendor like Amino Lair. He ships out the same day and has everything tested himself. There are other domestic, in-stock options like GB groups with already-tested extras. During the last slowdown, the in-stock options were top-of-mind for hoarding.

Regarding reta quality, there are pictures on Peppy's that apparently show a number of vendors are using the same factory, which is what we suspected all along. But each vendor may have different testing practices, better or worse employees, etc.

Regarding feelz, it is harder for me to go on feelz with reta, due to less sides than tirz, except insomnia in the beginning. At least in the past, I could count on uniquely bad diarrhea when titrating up with tirz. With all the GLP already in my system, I can maintain my weight for up to three weeks. After that, it's pizza craving time.
 
Whats everyone's experience with BT labs turnaround time? sent them some reta too and its taking a bit longer than they said it would....so im kinda worried its because it may be a bad batch and why its taking longer to get their docs/ducks in a row to break the bad news with a thorough explanation.
 
ZippityDooDah said:


No, it's not.

It has long been established, well before the advent of GLP-1s that "feels" is pretty meaningless (and applies equally to a variety of other substances). And while small percentage of experienced peptide users may be able to "feel" a difference, a brand new peptide user as in this case may as well be relying on a Ouija board or the force.

The unfortunate irony that we have here is that "feels" shouldn't be the basis for testing; the testing should have been done before feels ever became a consideration.

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The fact the batch numbers also point towards the kit being TB500 is also a big red flag.

No matter what they do at this point they're losing money. Unless of course the vendor also agrees to repay the tests, which i doubt.

I do understand your point of having to test everything. However, if you provide a paid service, or sell a product. Either you do it well or you just don't. The fact they tell him it's fine based on the color of a cap.. I would want to know what vendor we're talking about so i never buy from them, so placing a review isn't out of place IMO.
 
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