Day3cat
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I have been on 7.5 of tirz and would like to add Reta. How should I go about this? Ex: lower Tirz next pin to 5.0 and add 1.0 Reta, then week 2 Tirz 2.5 and Reta 2, etc?
Protocol for reducing Tirz and starting Reta?
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BrightCandle
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Due to the half lives it takes 4 pins or so for the new dose to stabilise so whatever change you make should be more like monthly than weekly. You could try calculating the total but its just a recipe for more sides. The actual ratio could be 2.5 to 1, or it could be more like 1:1, its impossible to know.
Dropping to 5 and adding 1 and sticking for a month seems like a reasonable first step to me. Then you reassess whether that is enough or not and if not add some Reta and repeat, that will give you some idea of the ratio for the next jump. I think slow and steady with knowledge is the right way to go for minimum disruption but there is always just the option of stopping Tirz and moving straight to Reta and starting at 2mg for the first month and being as aggressive as the trials you would likely be back up to dose in 3 months.
Dropping to 5 and adding 1 and sticking for a month seems like a reasonable first step to me. Then you reassess whether that is enough or not and if not add some Reta and repeat, that will give you some idea of the ratio for the next jump. I think slow and steady with knowledge is the right way to go for minimum disruption but there is always just the option of stopping Tirz and moving straight to Reta and starting at 2mg for the first month and being as aggressive as the trials you would likely be back up to dose in 3 months.
deleted.user.27
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Ive seen vendors that market Reta Tirz blends together in the vial. Not sure of the ratios in there. It may help to look at dose calculators to see if they have data for that blend.
BBA1969
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I agree with BrightCandle.
It's not a totally bad plan but you should stay a few weeks on a new dosage to reach steady state and assess if the combo is working for you instead of jumping to new doses every week.
janedoe
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My experience, posted previously..... yours may vary.
I was maxed out on 15mg Tirz when I hit goal, after 1 year, 5/25. I dropped the Tirz to 10mg, the following week, then the week following that I went right to Reta, I believe 1 or 1.5 intially, then to 3mg and that's were I stayed. I did stack reta w/ Cagri .250mcg, until 11/25. I dropped the Cagri stack bc I lost 15Lbs after goal weight and didn't want to loose more weight. I've haven't needed to go up on Reta despite some mild food noise, just bc I am easily satisfied and still at a caloric deficit. I don't worry about eating. I prefer to couple some behavior/ lifestyle approaches bc food noise isn't that bothersome to me, due to being easily satisfied in my maintenance. Weight is stable at 3mg 1x per week.
I was maxed out on 15mg Tirz when I hit goal, after 1 year, 5/25. I dropped the Tirz to 10mg, the following week, then the week following that I went right to Reta, I believe 1 or 1.5 intially, then to 3mg and that's were I stayed. I did stack reta w/ Cagri .250mcg, until 11/25. I dropped the Cagri stack bc I lost 15Lbs after goal weight and didn't want to loose more weight. I've haven't needed to go up on Reta despite some mild food noise, just bc I am easily satisfied and still at a caloric deficit. I don't worry about eating. I prefer to couple some behavior/ lifestyle approaches bc food noise isn't that bothersome to me, due to being easily satisfied in my maintenance. Weight is stable at 3mg 1x per week.
finesse
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Any insight into food noise following reduction of triz
MFGamesta
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I did something similar. Since both have about the same half life of 7 days, I just quit cold turkey and went right to reta. Basically 4-week transition just from going cold turkey.
b_rad80
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I was also at 7.5mg Tirz for 5 weeks when I decided to switch, mid-week I did my first dose of Reta 2mg, then my next shot of Tirz I lowered 2.5mg to 5mg. After 4 weeks time I intend to do the same again. When it's all said and done I will be off of Tirz and on 6 mg of Reta. Tomorrow is my next dose of Tirz and the day that I weigh in so we will see! I have felt great all week though!